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  On shunning

  by paranoia agent in

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  here is something interesting that pertains to the action of shunning.

  the book called extreme was written by psychologists.. 1.

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  paranoia agent

  I've provided links to two other pages but they don't appear to be showing up.

  Here is the link to the 2nd page - http://imageshack.com/a/img661/5378/COJ7KQ.jpg

  and third - http://imageshack.com/a/img913/3609/ci0q93.jpg
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  On shunning

  by paranoia agent in

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  this book titled extreme, written by two psychologists, with a section on ostracism.. .

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  paranoia agent

  This book titled Extreme, written by two psychologists, with a section on ostracism.

  
  

  
  
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  On shunning

  by paranoia agent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is something interesting that pertains to the action of shunning.

  the book called extreme was written by psychologists.. 1.

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  paranoia agent

  Here is something interesting that pertains to the action of shunning. The book called Extreme was written by psychologists.

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  On shunning

  by paranoia agent in

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  this book titled extreme, written by two psychologists, with a section on ostracism.. i've been having troubles adding these to see, and the best i can do is provide the links.

  http://imageshack.com/a/img538/5893/fnqoq5.jpg.

  http://imageshack.com/a/img661/5378/coj7kq.jpg.

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  paranoia agent

  This book titled Extreme, written by two psychologists, with a section on ostracism.

  I've been having troubles adding these to see, and the best I can do is provide the links

  http://imageshack.com/a/img538/5893/FnQoq5.jpg

  http://imageshack.com/a/img661/5378/COJ7KQ.jpg

  http://imageshack.com/a/img913/3609/ci0q93.jpg
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  Are the Governing Body Members Mentally Ill?

  by Oubliette in

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  data-dog: i believe that many of them would actually be considered mentally ill, if they were ever tested.. .

  great question and intriguing hypothesis.

  lets take an armchair psychologists view and see what we shall see.

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  paranoia agent

  Phizzy15 hours ago

  Anyone who lives a life of delusion is in fact mentally ill. Many such people function despite their illness, and do little harm.

  There is zero evidence. There is no psychologist, neurologist or psychiatrist that will support you with your comment from ignorance.
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  Are the Governing Body Members Mentally Ill?

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  data-dog: i believe that many of them would actually be considered mentally ill, if they were ever tested.. .

  great question and intriguing hypothesis.

  lets take an armchair psychologists view and see what we shall see.

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  paranoia agent

  Oubliette:You can't possibly know that. You're certainly able to think it, but you can't know it and in fact you are wrong.

  In context of what is being discussed here, yes I do know. I have also mentioned a number of books in my post and run a blog dedicated to books on psychology - http://psychbookreviews.blogspot.com.au/

  Oubliette: OK, you just lost all credibility in this discussion.
  

  How so?

  
  

  Oubliette: Pretty ironic statement considering your JWN Username.

  
  BTW, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!
  

  What about my username? It says nothing of me. What are you twelve?
  
  
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  Are the Governing Body Members Mentally Ill?

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  data-dog: i believe that many of them would actually be considered mentally ill, if they were ever tested.. .

  great question and intriguing hypothesis.

  lets take an armchair psychologists view and see what we shall see.

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  paranoia agent

  I don’t think anyone here understand what is being mentally ill, so before any mention of who is mentally ill allow me to explain that nobody has mental disorders or illnesses.

  Firstly mental illness is a term used by psychiatrists that shouldn't be used. The mind is something that can't be seen, has no smell or taste. The brain on the other hand does, but there is little neurology can understand about the brain and mind without psychological interpretation. But how can the mind have an illness? This is just as ridiculous as saying that the soul has an illness.

  The other problem is that psychiatry has set the line for normality, to determine abnormal psychology, sadly as some tautology of theirs with little evidential support. Saving Normal is a book written by the person responsible for the DSM-IV, a past bible used by all psychiatrists, which (in the book Saving Normal) he explains the issues with normality. Some clinical psychologists (The New Laws of Psychology and The Book of Woe books) have gone so far to explain that there is no such thing as abnormal or normal psychology, just psychology.

  The other problem is of what the layperson thinks of mental illnesses and mental disorders. As if irrational behaviours explain some illness. Let me here explain briefly what is going on with JW’s. People are somewhat born as blank slats, and jws implement a system to control and monitor a members level of education and socialisations in such a way that makes it difficult for differentiation dialogue to take place to make way for change. The other problems are human problems, cognitive dissonance (- Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me): Why We Justify Foolish Beliefs, Bad Decisions, and Hurtful Acts – is an excellent book on this), cognitive biases (The Art of Thinking Clear) and other cognitive distortions and heurists (my favourite book Thinking, Fast and Slow). All this books explain how we think we are rational beings when in fact we are very irrational.
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  Ozy the ex jw

  by paranoia agent in

  1. jw
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  explains how he left the jws.. https://youtu.be/r9w4ojgfllk .

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  paranoia agent

  explains how he left the jws.

  https://youtu.be/R9w4oJgflLk
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  How do you feel about religion as a whole?

  by FatherFirst in

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  it just seems to me religion in general primarily makes truly bad people worse, not genuinly good people better; and in many cases has even made good people do bad things in the name of their religion.

  just curious, a personal poll if you will.

  what are you guys' current views on religion as a whole?

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  paranoia agent

  Religion has its benefits. For one it functions as a placebo, helping people face hardships and the such. Then as a social aspect, it's cheaper to regulate people of the society than law and police.

  But religion can also be the cause of deaths, discrimination and bad prejudices.

  biblical fundamentalists for example, has to deal with their cognitive dissonance regarding science. I'm quick to point out to those that claim the bible not to be errant, that the sun does not revolve around the earth. The conversation from here on is rather pointless, but you can understand the problem religion causes with disconnect of communication. It's like politics.

  then the religious, just like jw's, have their how faulty view of themselves as having the higher moral ground. I heard at "at least she's a Christian". The person who said this is known for her gossip and pettiness. They delude themselves in thinking of something they don't understand as being right. Moral absolutes coming from a God that out did hitler.

  to combate these problems, it does not come from atheism or theism. It comes from humanism, philosophies of life and the understanding of moral psychology.

  jhine: here the Salvation Army board members wants gays dead. There also was a scandle of how they use their money, and their prejudice to other non-Christian people.
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  A brilliant psychologist

  by voodoo lady in

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  i've been seeing a brilliant psychologist.

  he has been pivotal in drawing the parallels between my jw upbringing - specifically the hypocrisy i saw as a child - and the reason i've tolerated lies and inconsistencies in my most significant adult relationship.. i've seen one other psychologist in the past.

  she didn't get the issues surrounding the religion whatsoever, didn't regard that aspect of my backstory as relevant, and was of little help to me.. has anyone else seen a psychologist - whether for help with coping in the aftermath of leaving the religion, or for seemingly unrelated issues that actually turned out to be related?

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  paranoia agent

  Psychologist know a lot, but psychology really is also an art. Some have it and others don't. The same with people of the public, you have to suspect psychologists of their biases and shortcomings. That is why I tell people to switch if they feel that their psychologist does not understand them.

  As for psychiatrists, I see no need for them unless the patient is suffering from clinical depression. All they do is categorize you for a drug they think you should take. But this wont resolve the problem to the full extent. For books on this read Cracked, The Book of Woe and Saving Normal.